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    Re: Terrific article from Jason Whitlock on Imus

    The record labels are owned by big corporations. Probably some of the same ones that pulled their advertisements from Imus. Bad taste is bad taste whether it be on a record or TV. Ice Cube is also making movies that will be on TV and have commercial. Do you think no one should advertise during his movies?

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    Re: Terrific article from Jason Whitlock on Imus

    No, most hiphop labels are owned by the artists these days. Everyone saw how Master P made 400 million dollars in about a 4 year span. What MTV plays is another ball game, but most artists are on smaller labels that are owned by another rapper or a small rap label like Koch that allows them to have total control over their project.

    Ice Cube owns his own label, its called Lynch Mob records. He has complete control over what he releases.

    Aside from that, he helped release F the Police back in 1988 and Black Korea in 91. Both on Ruthless Records, a company owned by Eric Eazy E Wright. He had sole control over some of the most controversial songs in music history.

    Some rappers have left various labels which they were under control of various A and R executives that wanted a more commerical friendly and less controversial release. In the end though, these guys are making millions of dollars and the AR's need them alot more than they need the record labels. Thats why most rappers have their own labels or work for someone like themselves. Example, Eminem, 50 Cent, Xzibit, Mobb Deep, Snoop Dogg, etc are all under the Shady/Aftermath umbrella that Dr Dre started. Interscope is a distributor but they dont have too much say so in what goes out.

    Its all a moot issue anyway because the majority of hiphop artists are making alot more money off of their mixtapes than they are their albums these days. They can put out mixtapes weekly without having to worry about clearing samples, mastering the albums, and not having to deal with maticulous credits and cover art. Those mixtaps are released on cd-r and have publishing rights to protect themselves from major piracy as a result of heavy bootlegging.

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    Re: Terrific article from Jason Whitlock on Imus

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    Re: Terrific article from Jason Whitlock on Imus

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    Re: Terrific article from Jason Whitlock on Imus

    I highly doubt he owns the studio that put out Are we done yet? You can type paragraph of paragraph of stuff but it still isn't right for him to be making it on any screen when Imus cant. Doesn't matter if he was making tapes in his basement at his own cost if the stuff he said on them racist he shouldn't be working for any studios putting out any movies from any of the big studios. He shouldn't get any advertisement money. Basically I could care less about what he has said. I think people have blown the Imus deal way outta proportion. People need to toughen up a little. Quit being such pansies. But it doesn't need to a double standard. Calos mencia says stuff even worse than nappy, headed or hoe. He is still on the air.
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    Re: Terrific article from Jason Whitlock on Imus

    2 different situations. When are you going to realize that?

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    Re: Terrific article from Jason Whitlock on Imus

    By JASON WHITLOCK
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    I'm calling for Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, the president and vice president of Black America, to step down.

    Their leadership is stale. Their ideas are outdated. And they don't give a [censored] about us.

    We need to take a cue from White America and re-elect our leadership every four years. White folks realize that power corrupts. That's why they placed term limits on the presidency. They know if you leave a man in power too long he quits looking out for the interest of his constituency and starts looking out for his own best interest.

    We've turned Jesse and Al into Supreme Court justices. They get to speak for us for a lifetime.

    Why?

    If judged by the results they've produced the last 20 years, you'd have to regard their administration as a total failure. Seriously, compared to Martin and Malcolm and the freedoms and progress their leadership produced, Jesse and Al are an embarrassment.

    Their job the last two decades was to show black people how to take advantage of the opportunities Martin and Malcolm won.

    Have we at the level we should have? No.

    Rather than inspire us to seize hard-earned opportunities, Jesse and Al have specialized in blackmailing white folks for profit and attention. They were at it again last week, helping to turn radio shock jock Don Imus' stupidity into a world-wide crisis that reached its crescendo Tuesday afternoon when Rutgers women's basketball coach C. Vivian Stringer led a massive pity party/recruiting rally.

    Hey, what Imus said, calling the Rutgers players "nappy-headed hos," was ignorant, insensitive and offensive. But so are many of the words that come out of the mouths of radio shock jocks/comedians.

    Imus' words did no real damage. Let me tell you what damaged us this week: the sports cover of Tuesday's USA Today. This country's newspaper of record published a story about the NFL and crime and ran a picture of 41 NFL players who were arrested in 2006. By my count, 39 of those players were black.

    You want to talk about a damaging, powerful image, an image that went out across the globe?

    We're holding news conferences about Imus when the behavior of NFL players is painting us as lawless and immoral. Come on. We can do better than that. Jesse and Al are smarter than that.

    Had Imus' predictably poor attempt at humor not been turned into an international incident by the deluge of media coverage, 97 percent of America would've never known what Imus said. His platform isn't that large and it has zero penetration into the sports world.

    Imus certainly doesn't resonate in the world frequented by college women. The insistence by these young women that they have been emotionally scarred by an old white man with no currency in their world is laughably dishonest.

    The Rutgers players are nothing more than pawns in a game being played by Jackson, Sharpton and Stringer.

    Jesse and Al are flexing their muscle and setting up their next sting. Bringing down Imus, despite his sincere attempts at apologizing, would serve notice to their next potential victim that it is far better to pay up than stand up to Jesse and Al James.

    Stringer just wanted her 15 minutes to make the case that she's every bit as important as Pat Summitt and Geno Auriemma. By the time Stringer's rambling, rapping and rhyming 30-minute speech was over, you'd forgotten that Tennessee won the national championship and just assumed a racist plot had been hatched to deny the Scarlet Knights credit for winning it all.

    Maybe that's the real crime. Imus' ignorance has taken attention away from Candace Parker's and Summitt's incredible accomplishment. Or maybe it was Sharpton's, Stringer's and Jackson's grandstanding that moved the spotlight from Tennessee to New Jersey?

    None of this over-the-top grandstanding does Black America any good.

    We can't win the war over verbal disrespect and racism when we have so obviously and blatantly surrendered the moral high ground on the issue. Jesse and Al might win the battle with Imus and get him fired or severely neutered. But the war? We don't stand a chance in the war. Not when everybody knows "nappy-headed ho's"? is a compliment compared to what we allow black rap artists to say about black women on a daily basis.

    We look foolish and cruel for kicking a man who went on Sharpton's radio show and apologized. Imus didn't pull a Michael Richards and schedule an interview on Letterman. Imus went to the Black vice president's house, acknowledged his mistake and asked for forgiveness.

    Let it go and let God.

    We have more important issues to deal with than Imus. If we are unwilling to clean up the filth and disrespect we heap on each other, nothing will change with our condition. You can fire every Don Imus in the country, and our incarceration rate, fatherless-child rate, illiteracy rate and murder rate will still continue to skyrocket.

    A man who doesn't respect himself wastes his breath demanding that others respect him.

    We don't respect ourselves right now. If we did, we wouldn't call each other the N-word. If we did, we wouldn't let people with prison values define who we are in music and videos. If we did, we wouldn't call black women [censored] and hos and abandon them when they have our babies.

    If we had the proper level of self-respect, we wouldn't act like it's only a crime when a white man disrespects us. We hold Imus to a higher standard than we hold ourselves. That's a (freaking) shame.

    We need leadership that is interested in fixing the culture we've adopted. We need leadership that makes all of us take tremendous pride in educating ourselves. We need leadership that can reach professional athletes and entertainers and get them to understand that they're ambassadors and play an important role in defining who we are and what values our culture will embrace.

    It's time for Jesse and Al to step down. They've had 25 years to lead us. Other than their accountants, I'd be hard pressed to find someone who has benefited from their administration.
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    Re: Terrific article from Jason Whitlock on Imus

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    2 different situations. When are you going to realize that?

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    Duh!!! Ice cube is Black. Don Imus is white. Both are 2 different people. Carlos is niether but he says alot more offensive stuff about everybody. When did I ever say it was a single situation. Need To read a little.

    He makes a good point with the pictures of the NFL players. Ive saw Whitlock on 3 differnt news shows in the last 3 days. He has some intersting views.

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    Re: Terrific article from Jason Whitlock on Imus

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    I highly doubt he owns the studio that put out Are we done yet? You can type paragraph of paragraph of stuff but it still isn't right for him to be making it on any screen when Imus cant. Doesn't matter if he was making tapes in his basement at his own cost if the stuff he said on them racist he shouldn't be working for any studios putting out any movies from any of the big studios. He shouldn't get any advertisement money. Basically I could care less about what he has said. I think people have blown the Imus deal way outta proportion. People need to toughen up a little. Quit being such pansies. But it doesn't need to a double standard. Calos mencia says stuff even worse than nappy, headed or hoe. He is still on the air.

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    Rappers own their own studios too. Every rap label has their own recording studios. Its irrelevant anyway. The Wu Tang Clan recorded 36 chambers in their basement. They dont get advertisement money from anyone either, the record labels finance their own marketing to advertise for their artist. In turn, they make money as does the artists. Some of the major record labels are going to advertise more like def jam, shaddy/aftermath, etc. Smaller labels like Koch dont advertise much and cater to the more underground artists that already have a fan base. The Imus situation has been blown out of proportion, but youre just throwing stuff against the wall and hoping it sticks. There is a major difference in someone that works on tv and a hiphop artist. In case you havent ever listened to rap music, anything goes, its no holds bar'd. Its not Nascar where there is sponsorship, its not the NBA where you get fined for criticizing refs. Look at it this way, Charles Manson can make albums from behind bars about some of the most satanic beliefs and brutal murders there have been, theres no regulatory body that says "you cant say that". Imus lost his job, he can still say what he wants to say, he just cant say it while working for CBS or MSNBC.

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